Comments on: The past and future of music/2008/11/05/the-past-and-future-of-music/Andrew Curry's blog on futures, trends, emerging issues and scenariosFri, 11 Mar 2016 09:09:17 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: The story of the blues | Around the edges/2008/11/05/the-past-and-future-of-music/#comment-4341Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:00:48 +0000/?p=522#comment-4341[…] your palate. In our too-knowing post post-modern era, when (as Umberto Eco said) media has genealogy but no memory it’s important to strip away the layers of interpretation and irony and try to […]

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By: After recorded music loses its value « thenextwave/2008/11/05/the-past-and-future-of-music/#comment-2982Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:54:47 +0000/?p=522#comment-2982[…] is a subject I have mentioned a couple of times before (Tony Wilson and others here, Bill Drummond here) . This is a short post to note that Brian Eno has offered some views on this in a recent edition […]

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By: unconventionmedia/2008/11/05/the-past-and-future-of-music/#comment-2218Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:33:32 +0000/?p=522#comment-2218Interesting thoughts. Been talking a lot of these points with musicians and songwriters out of Nashville from our Unconventional South office. Changes bring great creativity.

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By: David Gunn/2008/11/05/the-past-and-future-of-music/#comment-2187Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:01:43 +0000/?p=522#comment-2187Interesting. Though i do wonder about “If everything is everywhere, then nothing is anywhere. There’s no particular place to go”.

Genealogy of music was always a dubious thing. And it always seems related to the desire to define musicians as important because they were “pioneers”. This also relates back to the growing emphasis upon authorship in music (rather than performance) throughout last few centuries (cf, of course, early american folk as the last flowering of an alternate tradition). Authorship, of course, is vital to the emergence of a music “industry” – first via creation and selling of scores and subsequently records. In short, the genealogy in music is intimately involved with the creation and maintenance of music industry.

This of course relates to more general observations that perhaps history isn’t a linear, upward progress…

So i wd suggest that this situation is only one where the music industry “has nowhere to go” – as the intellectual foundations of their biz model are undermined by changes not in format but in platform.

To flip Eco, is it not the case that memory (felt and remembered experience and sensation) remains but genealogy (the established, canonical sense of who is important by recourse to linear narratives of progression?) is lost?

Going back to Drummond’s book – after one of their first sessions with a school, Bill Drummond’s buddy takes him up on his ideas:

“There is no way they will be able to relate to all your theories about recorded music being over and done with. For them it is only beginning. For them, music, especially recorded music, is opening up a whole new world, a world away from what they might concieve to eb the narrow confines of their life here. Just like Strawberry Fields did for you. As far as they are concerned, who are you to be telling them that all music that is being recorded now and that they might like is pointless, finished and probably rubbish?”

In other words – is he just another grumpy old man complaining that his generation was better? And just as “genealogy of music” serves to underpin a flagging industry, Drummond’s own insistence about “the end of music” is a (perhaps unknowing) tactic to ignore the changing substructure of “music” (remix culture etc) as a cultural phenomena, and to keep those values and traditions which he values most at the top of the pile.

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